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- That poor woman in the teaser! Sure, we only see her like a minute and a half, but she was pretty cool for that. Big points to her for carrying a bat, much though it didn't help her.

- ..Aaaaand, Jack avoids the question. Why, the world will never know. I get that fucking with his teammates' heads is fun, but since when did his sexuality become this great mystery?

- Oh, God. Poor Ianto. I desperately want to hug that boy. As he's fictional and I'm not, the task falls to one of his coworkers, and *someone* better step up to the plate, or else.

- Gwen and Owen. Owen and Gwen. I'm getting shades of Buffy and Spike, at their most trainwrecky. At least it's an interesting train wreck, in both cases. So far.

9 min. 19 sec.: Well, that's pleasant. Like I said, no worse than anything I've seen on CSI, but considering it's early in the episode, I *know* things are only going to get grosser.

11 min. 28 sec.: Hold on, is that the same 'moor' they used in "Tooth and Claw?"

- Dude. Splitting up was so the dumbest idea Jack has ever had in his life, wasn't it?

- "This can't be human," says Gwen. Care to wager on that?

- And more splitting up. Have any of these people ever seen a horror movie? Seriously, I'm asking.

I'm still asking.

- Graphic sight of gunshot wound? No problem. Needle? Lily needs to look away. At least the characters aren't the only ones who have the crazy.

In other news - finally, Owen gets to actually *do* anything as the team medic.

- "Do you miss being a doctor?"

"I'm still a doctor. I just don't deal with patients anymore. It's ideal." - OMG, Owen is channeling House!

- Piles of shoes have never been so scary.

- I win that wager. It's a pyrrhic victory.

39 min. 38 sec.: Two possibilities here. Either Gwen didn't shoot cause Owen would have died otherwise (the good option), or she didn't shoot cause she couldn't (the option that makes her lose all the respect I've gathered for her this episode). Fuck it. Let me be an optimist, just this once.

You know, this may be the very first time when Gwen actually makes sense as the POV character. It's not about her being more innocent than them. It's about the loss of that innocence. And that? That works.

And I admit, Owen/Gwen makes *sense* here. Again, I get the Buffy/Spike parallels. I'd be surprised if this ends well, and I'm not sure I want it to, but the connection is very real, and Gwen's right - you need someone you can share this kind of life with.

I feel *horrible* for Rhys, but I have no doubt he won't end up alone, in the long run. He's too good a guy for that to happen. He'll find someone else and be happy. I just hope we keep him on as a character.

In other news, I'm not liking where Jack's character keeps going in this show. Pragmatic and practical I'm great with. Sadistic, I don't buy. I could look at it as another side to pragmatism, I guess.

We'll see, said the blind man.

In *other* other news, I'm ecstatic that Tosh finally got something to do this episode. She was pretty fucking awesome, *and* the next episode is all hers.


Overall, the best of the Chibnall episodes. I didn't feel talked down to or two-by-foured. Not entirely happy with some of the characterization, but there was enough good to tide me over.

Just, whatever you do, for fuck's sake don't eat before this episode. That goes double for 'during.'

Queer content: None, but check the previews for episode 7.
Jack naked: None

Date: 2006-11-20 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharona1x2.livejournal.com
As much as I like Rhys, and believe me that I do, I think the Owen/Gwen stuff was good. That has to be something that happens a lot with police work. I'd rather see the show go that route than Jack/Gwen.

I don't see Jack as being sadistic. He wasn't doing anything to hurt anyone because he wanted to, and I don't think he enjoyed it. He was doing what he had to under pressure to save as many people as he could. I wouldn't want to be in his position.

I'm always aware at some level that Jack is the 'outsider' in the group. I think that comes through in scenes like the one where he was questioning his prisoner. His experiences and knowledge force him to sometimes do things the others would never consider.

Date: 2006-11-20 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mllelaurel.livejournal.com
I agree 100%. It...uh, didn't come through in this review, I guess, but I *like* the Gwen/Owen dynamic. (For Lily, 'trainwreck' doesn't mean bad, necessarily. It just means not terribly emotionally healthy for them.) And God, I'm glad they didn't go with Jack/Gwen! There are no words how glad I am.

That's the conclusion I also wound up coming to. Like I said, the other side of pragmatism involves doing a lot of stuff you don't like, just cause someone has to. It just took some adjusting, on my part.

Precisely. And I don't know if you've seen him on Doctor Who, but if you have, that makes his outsider status even more heartwrenching, because he was so at *home* with the Doctor and Rose.

Date: 2006-11-20 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yoritomo-reiko.livejournal.com
Hee. I saw the end of the episode and was like, "Oh, Lily will flip." Which is why I had to make a post about it.

And I'm with you. Gunshot wound was all right. The needle, I had to turn away from. Which is silly, in all honesty.

I think what I liked best about this episode was just that...it's human. The bad guys aren't aliens, it's not about the Rift. Really, it's nothing that Torchwood should probably get involved with, normally. It's just good, old-fashioned human bugfuck crazies. THAT'S why Gwen can't get it. Aliens and alien influence, all right. She can sort of get that. She doesn't like it, but she can sort of get it. Humans who do that sort of stuff? *shudder*

Agreed that I like where they're going with Owen/Gwen (so good, even their names rhyme!) and I'm VERY much happy that they aren't going with Jack/Gwen. Because Jack has enough issues without bringing Gwen into them as well. And we all know he's doing Ianto anyway.

On an off topic...did you know there are apparently people who ship Jack/Hand?

And just when you thought fandom couldn't get any weirder.

Date: 2006-11-20 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mllelaurel.livejournal.com
Needles... they are scary and wrong. Yes.

Agreed. Human villains are always the scariest kind. Cause there's no excuses, and it's altogether too close to home.

And now I want Jack/Ianto. But *good* Jack/Ianto - the kind that takes its time, lets them resolve their issues and get used to each other again, rather than throwing them into bed, motivation be damned.

On an off topic...did you know there are apparently people who ship Jack/Hand?

You mean you *didn't* know about that? *g*

As I often remark, I was a part of the Sailor Moon fandom, once. Nothing surprises me anymore.

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